Rocky Singh Kandola - A Great Survivor of Many Deaths LIVE with Daisy Oz
This week I interviewed an amazing survivor of a number of near death experiences – Rocky Singh Kandola – on Youth Crisis Solutions, Resilience in Tough Times & the Spirit of Overcoming the Impossible! He is a survivor of physical abuse, a convicted felon, and has had over a dozen near-death experiences! He now has emerged as a successful, inspirational Indian entrepreneur, operating several thriving businesses: The Manali Tea Company, Hair Maiden India, and Getaway Rentals. He speaks 4 languages and is an actor on IMDB.
Host:
Today I'll be speaking with an amazing survivor of a number of near-death experiences. Rocky Singh Kandola, and we'll be talking about youth crisis solutions, resilience in tough times in the spirit of overcoming the impossible as Rocky has. He is a survivor of physical abuse, a convicted felon, and has had over a dozen near-death experiences. He now has emerged as a successful inspirational Indian entrepreneur operating several thriving businesses. The modality company hair made in India, and I get away rental. He speaks four languages and is an actor for IMDV. So welcome, great survivor and inspiration for many Rocky things so much for having to miss Stacy it's. I'm happy to be interviewing you. Thank you. This is exciting to meet someone doing that taking something from their experience and helping others to do the same. I have a question about the dozen over a dozen near-death experiences. Is that correct?
Rocky Singh Kandola:
I was actually closer to eight to nine. But if you kind of count in all the small car accidents and all the things that the trucks are flipped and the in the ocean that they've been in the middle of the store, their boat, you can probably add to that nice easily.
Host:
Well, and were any of those like life after death experience? Like did you have any out-of-body experiences?
Rocky Singh Kandola:
Not necessarily the out of body experiences, but when this happened to my face, I was actually assaulted, thrown into a concrete sidewalk where my entire jaw was crushed. Well, I now have metal here and fake teeth and everything for almost a year of my life. I was so under so much trauma from the physical stuff, as well as from the medications that they had me on that it was just, you know, a year of basically just out of mine, you know, I didn't know where I was at, what was going on. I wasn't able to eat properly. And you know, when everything first happened I was very, very close to possibly die if, you know, if I didn't get to the emergency room very, very fast. And somehow I, which I don't remember either somehow I walked into the emergency room, the ER myself and my jaw just like hanging half off my face. And you know, the doctors, they did an incredible job. They were able to save me and help me out during that.
Host:
So they, they were close enough to, to like life after death or what I call spiritual death. Those are, those are profound because they change us. There's the shift that goes on within us. And I think it helps us empty that personal self kind of, they have to go within a sense, and we take on a greater part of ourselves. So and I'm going to go into a little more background on you. You spent your high school life in nine different facilities, schools, and boot camps across the world. Some of which are now closed due to severe child abuse, rape and tortures. You had attempted murder shot at stab and kidnap bringing about those over or close to 20 major surgeries. Wow. from these grave and painful experiences Rocky, you say you wish to help people who are experiencing what you've experienced, how beautiful are high honours to you. In what ways do you feel you're making any of that?
Rocky Singh Kandola:
So I feel like we all have our stirred stories and our journeys and things we go through. However, you know, these days, especially like, you know, in certain communities and certain cultures and certain, even racist and sexist these pains and these troubles and these things we go through are less talked about and kind of pushed under the rug what I've learned and what I've gained from my experience is talking about it, having community and sharing the story and then showing, you know, what you've done to overcome that is hugely impactful. For me personally, I was looking for mentors, you know, four or five years ago, I was in a rough stage in my life. And I was going through a separation with my ex-wife and I was feeling lost. Again, my business hadn't quite taken off how I wanted it to yet. And I was struggling to look for help from somewhere. And, you know, finally, I started reading YouTube books and re-watching YouTube videos and tuning into a lot of Ralph smart, you know Tony Robbins, Wayne Dyer Alan Watts. And I was able to through their experiences and do what they were sharing with me to kind of really feel an impact and really understand you know, how to change, how to shift my mind and had motivation, inspiration from it. And that's kind of standing, I wish to deliver using my experiences, my story, the things I've been through, the mindsets, I used to have the identities to be tied with back then, I'm into transforming that into where I am now and how I was actually able to take those steps, which was quite a long journey. I'm still on that journey to get to where I am, you know, present-day right now.
Host:
I like how you sought out mentors. Is that something that you advise for the youth today?
Rocky Singh Kandola:
Definitely, definitely. There are these days, you know, we're in an information overload, we have so much stuff being thrown at us from social media to television, to our communities, our groups. I think it's imperative that we start to actually consciously tune into more positive things to business things, even, even out there right now on YouTube and on books. There's so much out there. Even if you are a tennis player, if you're a musician, if you were looking for entrepreneurship, there are so many people out there that are speaking about their stories, about the positivity behind it, about the steps they took to get there. And those can be your mentors for me, those are my mentors, you know I reached out to them, had a funny story. I recently reached out to Ralph smart on his Instagram, and I've been following this guy for 40 years asset one thing. And following her spot of me, he said, oh, the blessings, thank you. I appreciate you. And I was like, well, finally, he heard me, but I've been telling him to thank you for four years, because he actually, and literally at a certain point in my life, a couple of years back saved me. And I was at a really, really dark place and tuning into his message and his positivity and his story of his struggles were those, let me relate to that. I too can do this. I have that power within me. And I felt very inspired to, you know, to move forward from me.
Host:
But what was his name again?
Rocky Singh Kandola:
Ralph smart. He has a YouTube show called infinite waters. And since then I have turned to a lot more people, but Ralph smart was one of the first people when I was going through, I was going through the, you know, I was kind of really discussing dynamics and relationships and love and how we need to love ourselves more and tune into nature. And, you know, these kinds of smaller things to elevate ourselves. And then we can kind of meet people on the same plot and the same level playing field as us, instead of being attracting, you know, things that we actually don't want into our lives. And that, that was like the spark that, you know, got me into more YouTube videos and looking for more mentors and reading more books.
Host:
I think you've got a great point. There, there is a lot of information out there and to get out there and educate ourselves and make, as you said, a conscious choice to do that say rather than playing games or, you know, this, we're not, we're here to live and become better. And, and when we're happy and we satisfy ourselves in that sense and become more whole, we can help others. We're happier we can get out of those negative patterns. Very good. Yes. And educating ourselves, I'd like to address our youth and what you call that troubled teen industry. I'm going to back up a little bit which is mostly unregulated. It's a collection of for-profit programs that claim to rehabilitate out of control you between 50 and a hundred thousand adolescents currently spend at least part of the year in these facilities. This is shocking. Especially for a small town country girl. I was really surprised and there's a lot to be said about this and do that any more details on this juvenile justice system?
Rocky Singh Kandola:
Yeah, I mean, that was my childhood, you know, I once my first one at 11 or 12, and then, you know, again in 17, and that's what I actually graduated high school from with a fate diploma, you know, these schools are, I said, they're, they're, for-profit businesses that claim to do these things and rehabilitation. And honestly, you know, I got a day, nothing could be farther from the truth, the amount of abuse and physical, mental sexual, everything that goes on in these places is just ridiculous. And I'm talking about when I went there, my first time was 1999 to 2004 saving on 2021. And finally, you know, these schools were being shut down and investigations are being started. And a lot of that was sparked by the TCI industry and the breaking code silence movement which was kind of, I wouldn't say pioneer, but definitely elevated by Paris Hilton doing a documentary about her time, she's back. And one of these schools in Utah recently called Provo canyon. You know, these schools, the ones I went to in particular we would be kidnapped out of our bed two o'clock in the morning with two big guys that are so tall that you have to turn the fan off in your room, just for them to stand in your bedroom. They would have your handcuffs and your feet cuffed already together. And they would escort you across the country to these remote, you know, undisclosed locations, all the way to your parents might know about it. That where they'd kind of start you in a routine of violence with the torture of mental games and brainwashing among all kinds of other things, you know, so when you first get there, you're basically, you're, you're sleeping in a hallway for 10 days on the ground You're woken up every morning, like the curse words and pots and pans banging together forced the count multiple times a day in the rain outside lay on the ground, you know the schooling there was just literally reading a textbook and taking the test out of the chapter. There was no communication allowed. And when I talk to each other, when I had to send out letters or mail to our parents, even without them being redacted and blacked out and, you know, really went through very intensive with a pen and paper though case matter does so medical care was basically not there. I remember being sick on a number of occasions in the first times I'd ask for help. Now I almost get, and I'll get in trouble breasts for help. So eventually I learned to just say, you know what, I'm not doing the same thing when I'm feeling sick, let me suck it up. So you know, that the biggest point in all of this is we got to remember this isn't a prison. This is an adult rehabilitation centre here, kids. I was 12 the first time, 17, the second time to put a kid in that kind of survival mode and take away from him the ability to learn and experience and grow and connect and have all the stages of life you go through as a teen, or is it a preteen even because a very dangerous thing to do to 50, to a hundred thousand people each year.
Host:
Is that still going on? This kind of thing, Rocky?
Rocky Singh Kandola:
So the one I went to was called the WWASP that is just one of the TTI programs. There are hundreds of them now, and then under different names, they're under different ownership. You know, a couple of the big names, you know, Robert Litchfield that started the one that I went to they've even opened up different ones under different names. And there there's someone on today on this, as we speak, there are kids that right now, we actually have a Facebook survivor's group where we allow some parents that come in and there's a private group. We allow parents that are trying to decide where some, no kidding. If they're sending them to get off to these schools and the administration of these groups, they actually like, you know, but the research together, sees what schools have been you know, accused of violating this and that, what their literature looks like online and compares it to all the stuff that we've all went through and parents know that, Hey, you know, this might not be the best decision. These people are class one manipulators, and they're looking to make money and they make a lot of money. Some of these programs charge up to $30,000 per month, I think, per month or per 90 days for these kids to go to the schools there. And there's no schooling.
Host:
So given the facts and your firsthand experience, and then along with your entrepreneurial skills, what kind of solutions do you see that need to be made for such an epitome of a justice system? I mean, what, what do you see that needs to be done to change the changes?
Rocky Singh Kandola:
Yeah. And we just, we discussed this a lot actually. And it's almost like an uphill battle, right? That the American justice system, I think we've all seen that in the past years is just flawed. There's no, like one answer I can say, okay, let's do this. Everything will be okay. I think the entire system from the ground up from, you know, the first responders to the judges into appellate courts need a complete overhaul in particular for child amnesty laws these groups, these businesses actually donate to presidential campaigns and elections, you know, obviously to gain favour, to keep certain bills and laws from being passed. So, I mean, that's one avenue right there is definitely, you know, you know, advocating for, for the law to be changed and girls will be passed on the same hand, as you didn't even know about it, many people still don't know about it. So the awareness, these, the res incorrectly greatly greatly greatly. And that's what, you know, talking on podcasts does. That's what many of my brothers and sisters that are survivors are attempting to do raising awareness, new communities and their families online via social media and where, you know, Paris Hilton came into play and kind of got a nice spark start underneath this stuff. I mean, this goes all the way, tend to like Dr Phil in the schools, he's sending kids to you know, major, major judges and political figures around the country. And I don't like to ever say that, you know, one person bad, and they're doing this, they're sending these kids there. A lot of times, Dr Phil and these people are just simply unaware and manipulated into thinking that, you know, despite this school is going to help a child. When you know that the studies have shown in time now has shown that the exact opposite is true. Most of the people that went to, these places are in very tough situations, mentally, spiritually, financially, physically, even, you know, many of them are incarcerated, dead, or, you know, in rehabilitation centre facilities across the country. I notice now because we weren't allowed to trade information with these schools. We weren't allowed to know what people's last names were from their phone numbers or anything. We had to all find each other after all these years on Facebook, through groups and apps.
Host:
Where are these schools? I'm having a hard time placing names and places of these schools. Yeah.
Rocky Singh Kandola:
They're everywhere. But they're smart enough to operate in small towns and remote locations, the deserts in the countries, in the farmlands of America and surrounding countries, Samoa, Mexico. There's a new one that just started up near the border of California and Mexico. If you, if you kind of do a search online for TTI, you'll see that, you know, even in Florida in the middle of like the Everglades area, the schools down there there's ones in Mississippi where my parents, parents and families hometown are, and they're all not part of the same program. They're all different levels. And we have gotten to the conclusion that some of these places actually are not at the very least not abusive. They're trying to not open there, actually some decent programs out there. You know, however, the majority of them, you got to think about it. You know, these are businesses, you know, like they operate, you know, just like private prisons in America, but they operate on keeping their beds full. If they don't keep their beds full, then you know, that they don't really can operate in business. So their motivations are not geared towards usually helping as much as, you know, taking advantage of and turn them into profit basically.
Host:
Well, it would be nice to see it turned around like you're saying into more positive programming and helping are you and stop the violence. I mean, it seems actually ridiculous. And so babyish and it's done self-serving so what other solutions do you see Rocky as an entrepreneur with your, also with your cultural experience influence your background in teaching our youth how can we enhance and propel them into healthier, healthier experiences and then bring them into their own greatness. So going in that direction, what do you see?
Rocky Singh Kandola:
Definitely? So, I mean, in my generation growing up, you know, we didn't discuss too much of wellness too much of meditation and yoga too much of like, you know, general life situations that arise dealing with relationships, things like that. However, like the ship is already happening. Seeing the generations now, like there's always going to be divide people that I was gonna choose who they want kids as well. But there's a lot more of the younger generation now that is actually actively seeking out these types of things. And I believe that I believe two is twofold. I believe that we began with them because, you know, they are already on it and we get them to become voices as well. I'm in secondary something I believe very strongly is in any society, any community, the people that need the most help for the most attention are the ones that society in those communities kind of throw away your drug addicts, your mental, mental patients, your criminals so-called, you know, and that's what we need to place a lot of focus and attention to as well. The kids that are going through this that are thrown away, that doesn't solve. We, I mean, I think everyone can know common sense wise if you just possibly on the rug or put them to the side for a couple of years, that doesn't make the issue go away. It doesn't make things better. And that education all and that you know, kind of experience begins at a very young age if you're able to do it, even our school system, you know, teaching these curriculums of, of textbooks and in science and that the kids, you know, some somewhat useful science, mostly not, they're not learning about real-life situations about, like I said before, relationships about even some of them get out and don't know how to, like what filing taxes are like, how to like report this or that, or get a job or anything about business. And you know, when you empower someone, you know, with the knowledge to do that and to do more than den society had set out for them, you know, quote-unquote then you also give them the ability to volunteer greatness, to walk into the greatness you know, because they have the knowledge and the ability to do that and then build the confidence from there. And it does start with the kids, you know, it's so important.
Host:
On many podcasts in my happy news and there's lots of research out there in positive psychology is exactly what you're talking about, emotional intelligence getting them out in nature, getting out that the facts on getting out in nature are phenomenal for healing. They've done cases with menthol people having mental disabilities and improving just by